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Lind:SAY
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:44 pm |
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deepwaters
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 8:57 am |
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Lindsay -
is this where the poem was about looking back? you were too quick to remove. I didn't have a chance to get here until tonight. put it back in, you impatient woman.

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Lind:SAY
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:41 am |
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Yes, you called it Deepwaters...impatient
I woke in the night unable to sleep, the vicious disease of self-doubt had taken over my being, rendering me useless.
Every poisonous, defeating word was clogging my system, so even though I stated how I was back on the train, I almost immediately decided to abandon ship and drown in the murky waters of my deluded thoughts...I took a phantom for reality.
So, I will repost my poem and put down the poison.
Thank You.
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Lind:SAY
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:45 am |
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mama’s big bed
i keep looking back to check and make sure I’m still
alive
that my life is still there
like a new fresh mama
who keeps checking on her baby
to make sure it’s still breathing
then holding her hand to its heart
to make sure it’s still
beating
lifting her newborn gently out of its crib
to lay in
mamas big bed
on mama’s chest
so they can both keep each other
alive
mythological organs containing a hero’s journey
are behind this human skin
maybe nothing is behind this skin
the trees hung heavy with fat raindrops on the leaves
i didn’t think it was raining
until the wind came and the branches
shook
and water couldn’t clutch the slippery surface
sliding
off
and onto my forehead
into my hair
the wind came
and the curtains
danced
and the fan in the window wasn’t on
but the wind turned the plastic petals
love me
love me not
it doesn’t matter
ashtray
stacked books
crystal ball
kansas coffee cup
a flute
candles
duck tape
change in a broken bowl with chinese calligraphy scribbled across it
all these things
and yet
all nothing
No eyes no ears no nose no tongue no body no mind
so even in the midst of chaos
in the midst of tremendous company
one can still keep the solitary mind
inseparable
my parents called me puss gut
sometimes
puss gut skin bag
i never questioned it
it was a term of endearment
and it made sense
especially when I would finish a whole box of swiss rolls
all to myself
in one sitting
reaching my
dirty finger nailed
chocolate and cream covered
hands
into the box
repeatedly
until it no longer held
weight
empty
the weight transferred to my stomach
as I nonchalantly pushed the tip of my blue jelly sandals
against the side porch floor
while on the swinging bench
hung
with chains that moaned
back
and
forth
back
and
forth
then clutch my belly
i did
my puss gut
Using my tongue
to push more chocolate
and cream
out of the cracks
and crevices
of my teeth
hoping for some saliva
watered
down
sweet
sugary
leftover
satisfaction
it’s just me here
dancing with the gods in my mind
the archetypes fill my flesh
as I continue to turn my head
and check
to making sure that I’m still
alive
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Lind:SAY
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 8:30 pm |
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thank you thief for your thoughtful reply...
it certainly helped a lot
i wrote this in one of those keep your hand moving whatever comes in let it out on paper you have 15 minutes type style...
taking out those ands makes it sound much better - tighter
i'll play with the mama thing, but mother just seems too formal to me which perhaps would take away from the mood...?
i agree with the 'inseparable' to 'it's just me here' shift, which i intend on working with too, but want to keep the porch swing in there somehow cause, like you said, it adds to the atmosphere of the piece...
again, much appreciation
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deepwaters
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 8:43 pm |
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Lindsay-
There is a poem in here; I have no doubt. But I don’t think you have found it quite yet. There is too much fat in here, as they say. Look for what is essential and try to get rid of the rest. Here are some specific thoughts:
i keep looking back to check and make sure I’m still
for example, for “check and make sure” pick one verb and be done.
alive
that my life is still there
why not “here”? just a thought.
like a new fresh mama for me, too many adjectives, neither of them really crisp and right
who keeps checking on her baby
to make sure it’s still breathing it’s ok to call the baby “it”?
then holding her hand to its heart do you need “then”? also, perhaps “holds” to stay in tune with “keeps”? I think it will create an immediacy.
to make sure it’s still
beating
lifting her newborn gently out of its crib again, perhaps “lifts”?
to lay in
mamas big bed mama’s?
on mama’s chest
so they can both keep each other need “both”?
alive
mythological organs containing a hero’s journey
are behind this human skin
maybe nothing is behind this skin
and then you suddenly throw me out of orbit with this satnaza. It is unclear what the poet wants to happen here
the trees hung heavy with fat raindrops on the leaves the tense changes, but I have no idea why.
i didn’t think it was raining
until the wind came and the branches
shook
and water couldn’t clutch the slippery surface
I like what this segment is about, and like the branches shaking and telling about the rain, but I think you need to restructure some. Tighten the language.
sliding
off
and onto my forehead
into my hair
the wind came
and the curtains
danced
and the fan in the window wasn’t on
but the wind turned the plastic petals
again, I would restructure here, maybe something like paralleling above:
the wind came
and the curtains
danced
the wind came
and the plastic petals of the fan
turned
Just throwing ideas out there.
love me
love me not
it doesn’t matter not sure you need this, it also sounds a little preachy to me. I think the part about “nothings, etc” says what you want it to.
ashtray
stacked books
crystal ball
kansas coffee cup
a flute
candles
duck tape
change in a broken bowl with chinese calligraphy scribbled across it
all these things
and yet
all nothing
No eyes no ears no nose no tongue no body no mind
so even in the midst of chaos I would get rid of “so”
in the midst of tremendous company
one can still keep the solitary mind ”stay solitary”? “heep the solitary mind” sounds cumbersome to me. Maybe it is just me
inseparable
my parents called me puss gut
sometimes
puss gut skin bag
i never questioned it
it was a term of endearment
and it made sense
especially when I would finish a whole box of swiss rolls
all to myself
in one sitting
reaching my
dirty finger nailed
chocolate and cream covered
hands
into the box
repeatedly
until it no longer held
weight
empty
this two stanza drag on for me, I would try to shorten it
the weight transferred to my stomach
as I nonchalantly pushed the tip of my blue jelly sandals
against the side porch floor
while on the swinging bench
hung
with chains that moaned
back
and
forth
back
and
forth
then clutch my belly
i did
my puss gut
Using my tongue
to push more chocolate
and cream
out of the cracks
and crevices
of my teeth
hoping for some saliva
watered
down
sweet
sugary
leftover
satisfaction
it’s just me here
for me, the story of the puss gut and her chocolate eating habits lack transition to and out of.
dancing with the gods in my mind
the archetypes fill my flesh
as I continue to turn my head
and check
to making sure that I’m still
alive
here again, we go abstract but it is unclear what the poet wants the reader to feel – at least for me.
Just my two cents anyway. If it is not helpful to you, throw it out. Thanks for posting.
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Wabi Sabi
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:48 pm |
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Lindsay, what you have written here is very impressive. It needs editing for sure but your descriptions are superb and really take the reader to that particular moment. I'd like to see how you develop this - it has huge potential.
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Rosa
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:21 pm |
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Lindsay, I love your name. You have my daughter's name.
Nothing new to add for crits. I think you should tighten this up.
EXCELLENT poem, superb imagery. I hate doing the line-by-line thing. You can tighten this up better than I could suggest, I'm sure. I think the puss gut imagery goes on a little too long. Love the chocolate rolls, and the saliva part.
Lots of beauty in here.
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Lind:SAY
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Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:21 am |
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deepwaters...i'm glad to see that you returned to feed me with some food for thought.
i will take your suggestions into consideration and plan on revising this tonight.
thanks again for calling me out!
Wabi Sabi...thanks for your comment. i too look forward to seeing how it develops!
Rosa...how special that i share your daughter's name. i was originally going to be a sara - i'm so glad my parents decided otherwise! sara is a beautiful name though, sometimes i use it when i don't feel like using mine (among the myriad other random names i choose from).
yeah, i got carried away with the puss gut story...we'll see how it shapes up!
Like deepwaters stated..."too much fat" yah ol puss gut, chill out on the gluttony! Put down the swiss rolls and trim up!
will do, will do
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